“I have discovered in recent years that the world I thought I’d left when I chose to stay at home, is still out there and it is up to me to go find it once more. A task I am enjoying pursuing”
This week I meet Tric Kearney, mom to four children, two at college, one in secondary school and one still to finish primary school. For most of her mothering years she has been a stay at home mother, only recently taking up part-time work.
She loves writing and began a blog ‘My thoughts on a page‘ in 2013.
(for anyone who doesn’t know her, I should tell you that her name is pronounced Trish – now you can read on without confusion 🙂 )
Thank you Tric for joining the series! Could you tell me a little about your family – how many children do you have?
Thank you for inviting me onto your blog. I have four children; three girls aged 23, 17 and 12, and one boy aged 20.
And now could you tell me a little about your career history – what did you do before you had your children and for how long you were working at this? Did you enjoy this work?
I trained as a nurse, and worked in Dublin, Australia and Cork. It was a job I really loved. I married quite young and became pregnant almost immediately, so at the age of 24 I retired, to become a SAHM!
Did you consider going back to work at any stage or did you always know you wanted to be a stay-at-home mom?
From the day I discovered I was pregnant I knew I would not return to work. Even though that is over twenty years ago my friends were horrified to think I would be a SAHM. My husband too said he felt uncomfortable saying it at work, as he felt people were judging him, as if it was he had made the decision not me. At that time more and more mothers were returning to work, and it was almost expected that you would do so. I felt as if I was letting those women down by doing the ‘old fashioned thing’ of staying at home. However for me it was an easy decision to make, not quite as easy to live with though.
Is there anything you missed about working?
As a young SAHM I missed everything. I missed my friends, my life, company, a career. I missed being someone. Life was very lonely, and yet it was everything I wanted, in that I had my beautiful baby girl who filled my days, and nights, so I couldn’t really complain.
However it was not easy, and certainly there were many days, I watched my husband leave, as I held a fretful baby in my arms, who had already been up with me since five, when I felt it was all too much.
The idea of working outside the home certainly appealed to me on days such as that.
What do you love about being at home with your children?
I have always loved the idea that if ever my children had a bad day, or moment, I would be there for them. From an early age I was a bit of a mother earth type, and for me being there when they came in from school, or were doing their homework, was very important to me.
However saying that I do not believe it is essential. It was essential for me, not necessarily for my children. I minded two other children, and I’d like to believe they did not ‘suffer’ because their mother worked full-time outside the home.
I have raised three girls and I definitely want them to have choices, in their choice of career, and in childcare. My choice was to stay at home. Looking back I’d not change a day of it.
You have recently returned to work. What do you do and for how long have you been working at this?
In the past two years I have returned to part-time ‘work’. I am now head teacher in a busy swimming club. It is not an actual ‘job’ but it is something I do six days a week. It is only one or two hours in an evening or on a Saturday and Sunday morning. It is something I am really passionate about, and I love it. The hours involved mean I am still around for my two younger children after school.
Do you think there’s a glass ceiling for women, or is it a perception based on the fact that mothers often look for flexibility or part-time hours, which in turn limits their opportunities?
I’m afraid I do believe there is a glass ceiling for women. I don’t necessarily believe it is for mothers, but for all women. Look at the teaching profession. A miniscule number of women make principle yet they make up the majority of the workforce. I don’t believe that it is impossible for women to do very well in the workforce, just that it is more difficult for them than for men.
I do see big changes happening though. More and more fathers are acting in a dual role. More companies are allowing job sharing. I firmly believe that by the time my youngest is out in the workforce it will be a much fairer place to work. Also with the internet, it is much more likely that future generations will have to spend less time away from their children. I think the future definitely looks bright for mothers.
Do you have any advice for expectant or new mothers thinking about leaving their jobs to stay-at-home, e.g. how to weigh up the decision, how to know it’s the right thing to do?
I would say if finances are not your main consideration, follow your heart. Staying at home for me was what my heart demanded, it is not the same for everyone.
If you do decide to leave your job, remember you are doing this for now, not forever. As a mother who stayed at home twenty years I never believed that there would be a place for me if I wished to return. I was very wrong. There are huge choices still there for me, as there will be for you, be it in two, five, or fifteen years.
Finally my advice to anyone staying at home is to make a life for themselves outside the home. A house can be a lonely and claustrophobic place, and you will be a much happier mother if you can find time to get away, even one evening a week. Try to go out with friends, or to a gym, or a class, whatever would interest you. Staying at home can make us feel like no one can look after this baby like we can. Well from past experience I can tell you, they can. Maybe not quite as efficiently as you did, but well enough. I think it is important to never forget, we are more than our babies’ mother.
Tric, what stopped me in my tracks in your interview was one sentence, “I think the future definitely looks bright for mothers”
I’ve never heard anyone say that before. I don’t know if it’s true or not, but just hearing it said was, for me, very uplifting and inspiring. We focus a lot on the tough parts – the fact that it’s so difficult to get back into the workforce after time out, the fact that so many employers don’t allow flexible working, and that so many mothers are feeling torn and guilty. We don’t celebrate the good stuff enough, or look at how things have improved. Maybe we’re all too busy to stop and realise that it’s not all bad! And it reminds me of a great recent post by Elizabeth, about the joy of working – we forget that too.
I think what you said about having something outside the home is so important – there are lots of women who want to keep working, but for some at least, it’s in order to fulfil that need to be something other than (as you say) our “babies’ mother”. It might be work, or it could be something creative, something that helps the community, volunteering, joining the PTA, starting a small business while the kids are in school – obviously it’s different for each person, but I completely agree with you on how important it is to have “something”.
And thank you for the reassurance that it is possible to take time out and get back in – I think a lot of us need reminding of that.
For anyone reading this who is not familiar with Tric’s blog, check it out – she’s the wise woman of the Irish Parenting Bloggers group and has a beautiful way with words: My Thoughts on a Page.
Thanks Tric!
Love this.
Thanks on behalf of Tric 🙂 (she’s reading and blushing)
Great interview with a great blogger! I think Tric’s advice to mother’s to find something for themselves outside the home is very good advice. I didn’t do it for a long time and got lost under a “mammy” cloud. I think I am a better mum now that I have a little outlet that reminds me who I am. I still love being a mother but it is good to remember that it is not the only word that defines me!
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Perfectly put Naomi – love the image of getting lost under a mammy cloud!!
Really enjoyed that interview, one of my favourite so far. You could give Tubridy a run for his money 😉 😉
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Glad you enjoyed it Emily, I thought it was lovely too!
Thanks for the interview Office mum. As you know I am a big fan of this series and I found it interesting to participate in it, even if it did show my age, and a photo!
I would have one wish for all mothers, to take time to enjoy their little ones however they choose, and whenever they can. It is a well known fact, they will eventually grow up!
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It was absolutely lovely to have you take part Tric – as someone who has been reading and commenting each week for a long time, it was fitting for you to feature! And such a lovely message to pass on to anyone who is at home or thinking of switching to staying at home. It’s reassuring to get the sense that nothing is forever, and also to hear that you have loved your time at home with your children.
Love this, thank you Tric for reassuring me that after being a SAHM nearly 7 years that even if I stay home for another 7, there will still be a place for me to return to when I choose. I can relate to so much in this interview xx
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Glad you enjoyed it Sara, and I agree – it’s very reassuring for anyone who is at home or considering taking time out!
Tric was brave to make the choice to stay home and care for her children. Being a SAHM is not for sissies! I cannot imagine Tric being anything but the best mother and a gift to all who know her.
Cheers for SAHMs!
Jackie
Thanks for the lovely comment Jackie!
wonderful interview, with a wonderful blogger and woman in her own right. and i’m happy to know how to pronounce your name at last. ) i applaud you, tric, for going with your heart and doing what you think/thought was best for your family. bravo )
Thanks for the lovely comment, and yes, agree she is wonderful! Delighted to be able to help with the pronunciation 🙂
Great to see Tric featuring in your series. She’s an absolute inspiration in terms of carving out her own special niche as a blogger and as a person with deep sensitivity and layers and layers of personality.
I must say, though, that I don’t quite share her optimism about women returning to work. Perhaps when the recession lifts, the situation will improve but there is now such a build up of talent and qualifications, I wonder if the spoils will be equally divided between men and women and what of the age divide. As a society, do we see that those returning have had their day and that the young are those on whom we need to concentrate when it comes to offering proper employment?
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I love Tric’s blog and her way of speaking common sense. I had presumed that she had been teaching swimming for years actually, rather than the last two.
It’s a shame isn’t it if women feel they have to apologise for being in full time work or for giving up work and being full time mums. It’s all about individual choice really – or should be.
Enjoyed this post 🙂
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Yes x a million.
I think we all end up excusing ourselves and apologising far too much. I suspect though it’s partly out of sensitivity to others – we feel the need to say “I chose this because x, y, z” so that we don’t give the impression that everyone should have made the same decision?
But you’re absolutely right – all down to individual choice.
Thanks for commenting!
I subscribe to Tric’s blog and found this interview quite informative and enlightening! Thanks!
Hi Linda, lovely to have your comment – yes I find with the interview series, you hear a different voice to the one bloggers normally use!